# How to use Ableton instruments in TidalCycles?

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**Created:** [16 December 2025 21:03 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/how-to-use-ableton-instruments-in-tidalcycles/6036 "2025-12-16T21:03:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![seriousmusician](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/seriousmusician/32/3264_2.png) [@seriousmusician](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/seriousmusician)\
**Post date:** [16 December 2025 21:03 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/how-to-use-ableton-instruments-in-tidalcycles/6036/1 "2025-12-16T21:03:50Z")

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I’m looking for the simplest way to do use a software synth (like Ableton’s default instrument library) as the “instruments” in TidalCycles. For example, I want to use Ableton’s default piano instrument in TidalCyles with something like `s “piano“`. Is there a way to add Ableton instruments as MIDI sources, [and then follow the Midi docs](https://tidalcycles.org/docs/configuration/MIDIOSC/midi)?

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**Author:** ![kit-christopher](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/kit-christopher/32/686_2.png) [@kit-christopher](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/kit-christopher)\
**Post date:** [17 December 2025 16:01 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/how-to-use-ableton-instruments-in-tidalcycles/6036/2 "2025-12-17T16:01:37Z")

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I set up several dedicated midi channels in a templated Ableton project and then define a variable to make the `midichan`functions a little less cumbersome to use (plus I add in some extra functionality of octave and legato for quick changes). I have found that kind of sticking to certain midi channels to run certain things (bass, melody, chords, etc.) has been useful. I can open up a project file from ages ago and know that I won’t have some busy chord pattern firing some bass synth in a low octave.