# "Learning Tidal" course week zero - installation and exploration

**URL:** <https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37>\
**Category:** TidalCycles\
**Tags:** installation\
**Created:** [2 April 2020 21:25 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37 "2020-04-02T21:25:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![yaxu](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/yaxu/32/2_2.png) [@yaxu](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/yaxu)\
**Post date:** [29 April 2020 23:15 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/87 "2020-04-29T23:15:36Z")

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That's strange. Maybe fiddling around in your system prefs _before_ starting/restarting supercollider + superdirt would help.. It could be that the default input is set to a bluetooth device, or something like that.

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**Author:** ![mdm0702](https://uzu.lurk.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@mdm0702](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/mdm0702)\
**Post date:** [29 April 2020 23:21 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/88 "2020-04-29T23:21:38Z")

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Yeah it looks like the issue was that when I was in Ableton the input was set to no input...

I switched it to built in input in Ableton and it worked again!

Thanks 🙂

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**Author:** ![iElectricista](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/ielectricista/32/1652_2.png) [@iElectricista](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/iElectricista)\
**Post date:** [15 January 2021 12:13 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/90 "2021-01-15T12:13:45Z")

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Hello @yaxu  
I know that this issue was already pointed out, and probably there is a simple way to resolve this. But, every time I start Atom that message appears. I have sound and Super Collider is working fine so I suppose it's not a big deal that error. I didn't try those command lines in the terminal because everything is working and I'm afraid that I mess things up if I change that. So, my question is, if everything is working I should't worry about that error, right?  
I'm on a MacBook with Mojave 10.14.6.  
P.S.: I'm on the first week of the TidalCycles course and loving it 😄 Thanks and all the best.

 ![Screenshot 2021-01-13 at 10.00.22](https://club.tidalcycles.org/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a19e09f1fb209e98e63a92075181c8b9587c5723.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![yaxu](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/yaxu/32/2_2.png) [@yaxu](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/yaxu)\
**Post date:** [15 January 2021 13:37 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/91 "2021-01-15T13:37:40Z")

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Yes that would get a bit annoying. In atom preferences, are you on the latest version of the tidalcycles package? @ndr_brt has been releasing a lot of updates lately. But yes if everything is working you can ignore that, the only error is that it is treating some information as if it was an error.

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**Author:** ![ndr\_brt](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/ndr_brt/32/396_2.png) [@ndr\_brt](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/ndr_brt)\
**Post date:** [15 January 2021 14:41 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/92 "2021-01-15T14:41:09Z")

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That message appears for two reason:

- a feature that shows the error messages on the console as atom notifications (that can be disabled in configuration)
- that string is printed on the stderr by ghci (don't know why, it should be on stdout, it's a simple information)

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**Author:** ![jwaldmann](https://uzu.lurk.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/977dab/32.png) [@jwaldmann](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/jwaldmann)\
**Post date:** [15 January 2021 14:48 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/93 "2021-01-15T14:48:59Z")

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I just found (by trial an error) that `ghci -v0` does not print the startup message and banner.

I have not idea what `-v0` would change in a ghci session. Tidal seems to work fine.

Flag reference: [https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/latest/docs/html/users\_guide/using.html#ghc-flag--v⟨n⟩](https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/latest/docs/html/users_guide/using.html#ghc-flag--v%E2%9F%A8n%E2%9F%A9) (it says that -v1 is default for --interactive, that is, ghci)

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**Author:** ![iElectricista](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/ielectricista/32/1652_2.png) [@iElectricista](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/iElectricista)\
**Post date:** [15 January 2021 14:54 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/94 "2021-01-15T14:54:32Z")

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Hello, and thanks for the quick reply. I did the update of the TidalCycles package on Atom and now there's a new warning!  
But i still have sound and Super Collider is working fine. 🤔  
So, for now I think it's OK because I'm able to do everything in Atom and generate sound.  
If that situation changes I'll definitely ask for help.

 ![Screenshot 2021-01-15 at 14.36.27](https://club.tidalcycles.org/uploads/default/original/2X/8/80a0d3f18414cbad4ca5c371a10579d1ef98c506.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![ndr\_brt](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/ndr_brt/32/396_2.png) [@ndr\_brt](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/ndr_brt)\
**Post date:** [15 January 2021 15:43 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/95 "2021-01-15T15:43:04Z")

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Woa, nice! It's a pity because startup message is useful for troubleshooting...

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**Author:** ![ndr\_brt](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/ndr_brt/32/396_2.png) [@ndr\_brt](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/ndr_brt)\
**Post date:** [15 January 2021 15:44 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/96 "2021-01-15T15:44:57Z")

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for some reason your ghc-pkg does not understand where's tidal installation directory... that information is used for obtain the `BootTidal.hs` path, maybe that's more like a warning instead of an error, will correct it.

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**Author:** ![ndr\_brt](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/ndr_brt/32/396_2.png) [@ndr\_brt](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/ndr_brt)\
**Post date:** [19 January 2021 09:01 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/97 "2021-01-19T09:01:30Z")

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Released the new version without the `Cannot obtain data-dir` error.

About the ghc error... since I updated it to 8.10, the log stopped appearing

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**Author:** ![Ouyuegu](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/ouyuegu/32/1719_2.png) [@Ouyuegu](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/Ouyuegu)\
**Post date:** [25 June 2021 01:07 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/98 "2021-06-25T01:07:41Z")

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Hello there! I had exactly the same

"Execution warning: Class 'Vowel' not found  
ERROR: Message 'formLib' not understood."

error... and the "include("Vowel")" + recompile did NOT work... I still get the same error in supercollider when I try to run superdirt...

Any troubleshooting suggestions?

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**Author:** ![yaxu](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/yaxu/32/2_2.png) [@yaxu](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/yaxu)\
**Post date:** [25 June 2021 08:55 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/99 "2021-06-25T08:55:21Z")

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Hm, that's strange, I'm not sure why that happened @Ouyuegu, maybe you had a network issue while it was downloading?

To troubleshoot, you could look in the folders to see if the Vowel quark (add-on) is actually there.

From the supercollider menus, it's File -\> Open user support directory -\> downloaded-quarks. There should be a Vowel folder there.

If you're familiar with 'git', it's a git repository, so you could try diagnosing the problem from the commandline.

Otherwise, you could try downloading the quark manually from here: [https://github.com/supercollider-quarks/Vowel/archive/refs/heads/master.zip](https://github.com/supercollider-quarks/Vowel/archive/refs/heads/master.zip) . It will uncompress as a folder 'Vowel-master', you'll need to rename it to Vowel and move it into that downloaded-quarks folder (deleting any existing folder).

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**Author:** ![Ouyuegu](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/ouyuegu/32/1719_2.png) [@Ouyuegu](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/Ouyuegu)\
**Post date:** [29 June 2021 11:47 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/100 "2021-06-29T11:47:37Z")

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Yes! Manual downloading worked perfectly. It seems that my install of Tidal had only partially populated the downloaded-quarks folder...

We live and learn.

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![miraflores](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/miraflores/32/1960_2.png) [@miraflores](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/miraflores)\
**Post date:** [11 August 2021 20:59 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/learning-tidal-course-week-zero-installation-and-exploration/37/101 "2021-08-11T20:59:19Z")

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Hello, i adding some more troubles to this endless thread. Im having troubles with the installation of Tidal. Im getting this message when running the automated script on Mac OS high sierra:

 ![Screen Shot 2021-08-11 at 22.56.25](https://club.tidalcycles.org/uploads/default/original/2X/4/4ac87aa6517bc97be1b9c917421ae18a9b3b2f1e.png)

Any body has a hint how to get through this? thx

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