# No sound produced

**URL:** <https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299>\
**Category:** TidalCycles\
**Tags:** installation\
**Created:** [19 October 2020 11:18 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299 "2020-10-19T11:18:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![WillyVanilli](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/willyvanilli/32/1349_2.png) [@WillyVanilli](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/WillyVanilli)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2020 11:18 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/1 "2020-10-19T11:18:23Z")

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Hi. I installed every package succesfully and I try to follow every step. First, I open SuperCollider and write SuperDirt.start. Then I open Atom, boot TidalCycles and write a simple line in a .tidal file (d1 $ sound "bd"). But it doesn't sound. The TidalCycles window only says the following:

Using default GHC system path definition

Ghci command: ghci  
Ghc-pkg command: ghc-pkg

Listening for external osc messages on 127.0.0.1:3333

Like, it doesn't say anything about any error. What should I do?

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**Author:** ![mrreason](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/mrreason/32/3203_2.png) [@mrreason](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/mrreason)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2020 11:43 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/2 "2020-10-19T11:43:38Z")

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Hmm that sounds a bit strange indeed. The message "Listening for external osc messages" is new and should perhaps be more meaningful, because this just means that you can trigger your code with OSC messages (see [https://github.com/tidalcycles/atom-tidalcycles/releases/tag/v3.13.0](https://github.com/tidalcycles/atom-tidalcycles/releases/tag/v3.13.0)).

But what I miss on the TidalCycles console output is the line "Load BootTidal from ...". What does your TidalCycles settings say to `Boot Tidal Path` (perhaps `Default`)? You can check this under `Atom -> Preferences -> Packages -> tidalcyclces -> Settings`

To check if you run into troubles on the SuperCollider side, you can check your output levels under `Server -> Show Server Meter`. If you see an output, than maybe you have to change your output device with `s.options.outDevice`. So maybe you need to modify your SuperCollider startup\_script (you can find an example under [https://github.com/musikinformatik/SuperDirt/blob/develop/superdirt\_startup.scd](https://github.com/musikinformatik/SuperDirt/blob/develop/superdirt_startup.scd)) under `File -> Open startup file`

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**Author:** ![WillyVanilli](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/willyvanilli/32/1349_2.png) [@WillyVanilli](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/WillyVanilli)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2020 12:22 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/3 "2020-10-19T12:22:16Z")

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I changed the startup file from SuperCollider pasting the code from the link you sent me, just in case, and after booting TidalCycles the message is now:

Using default GHC system path definition

Ghci command: ghci  
Ghc-pkg command: ghc-pkg

Load BootTidal.hs from C:\Users\Willy\AppData\Roaming\cabal\x86\_64-windows-ghc-8.10.2\tidal-1.6.1\BootTidal.hs

Listening for external osc messages on 127.0.0.1:3333

t\>

t\>

t\> Listening for controls on 127.0.0.1:6010

t\>

And it just stays like that. No output showed up on SuperCollider's server meter after trying to run the line on Atom.

Sorry, it's my first time and it's very confusing.

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**Author:** ![mrreason](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/mrreason/32/3203_2.png) [@mrreason](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/mrreason)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2020 13:02 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/4 "2020-10-19T13:02:56Z")

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Hmmm could you pls try the following? Open a console and type `ghci`.  
This should open the GHC interpreter with a line like

```haskell
GHCi, version 8.8.3: https://www.haskell.org/ghc/ :? for help
Prelude> 

```

Now you can type `import Sound.Tidal.Context`. The Prelude line should look like this now:

```haskell
Prelude Sound.Tidal.Context>

```

This is a test to ensure that TidalCycles is installed correctly.

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**Author:** ![WillyVanilli](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/willyvanilli/32/1349_2.png) [@WillyVanilli](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/WillyVanilli)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2020 13:12 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/6 "2020-10-19T13:12:25Z")

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Yeah, apparently it's installed correctly. It went as you said.

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**Author:** ![mrreason](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/mrreason/32/3203_2.png) [@mrreason](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/mrreason)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2020 14:29 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/7 "2020-10-19T14:29:11Z")

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That looks good in any case. I still think that SuperCollider uses the wrong soundcard. When the server is started in SuperCollider, information about the soundcard is listed. There it is listed which soundcards exist (with number and name) and which are used.

You can specify the sound card in the startup script, for example

```haskell
(
s.reboot { 
   ...
   // Maybe something like this under windows
   // For the default audio driver 
   s.options.inDevice_("Realtek High Definition (HD");

   s.waitForBoot {
      ... 
   }
)

```

Maybe this helps?

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**Author:** ![WillyVanilli](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/willyvanilli/32/1349_2.png) [@WillyVanilli](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/WillyVanilli)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2020 17:34 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/8 "2020-10-19T17:34:00Z")

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I tried it but when I boot tidalcycles the message is:

Using default GHC system path definition

Ghci command: ghci Ghc-pkg command: ghc-pkg

Load BootTidal.hs from C:\Users\Willy\AppData\Roaming\cabal\x86\_64-windows-ghc-8.10.2\tidal-1.6.1\BootTidal.hs

Listening for external osc messages on 127.0.0.1:3333

t\>

t\>

t\> Listening for controls on 127.0.0.1:6010 Control listen failed. Perhaps there's already another tidal instance listening on that port?

t\>

I algo have a problem on SuperCollider: the help guide says the low Server bar should show the numbers in green when the server is active, but I follow the steps to activate it and it still appears white.

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**Author:** ![igormpc](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/igormpc/32/2963_2.png) [@igormpc](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/igormpc)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2020 18:19 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/9 "2020-10-19T18:19:34Z")

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can you paste here what returns on supercollider post window?

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**Author:** ![WillyVanilli](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/willyvanilli/32/1349_2.png) [@WillyVanilli](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/WillyVanilli)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2020 21:31 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/10 "2020-10-19T21:31:08Z")

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Sorry, which one is that?

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**Author:** ![mrreason](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/mrreason/32/3203_2.png) [@mrreason](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/mrreason)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2020 23:12 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/11 "2020-10-19T23:12:01Z")

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@igormpc means the `Post window` to the right in SuperCollider; see:

 ![Bildschirmfoto 2020-10-20 um 01.08.05](https://club.tidalcycles.org/uploads/default/original/2X/d/d30fed6e814ecb06856b960ddc15594f259c00c9.png)

As you can see in my case the last line says `SuperDirt: listening to Tidal on port 57120` and the text of the line below has green color.

And indeed could you please share the output of this window? This might get us closer to a solution.

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**Author:** ![WillyVanilli](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/willyvanilli/32/1349_2.png) [@WillyVanilli](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/WillyVanilli)\
**Post date:** [21 October 2020 17:22 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/12 "2020-10-21T17:22:34Z")

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Sorry, I was out of home. It seems like the problem is here.

 ![dsvddv](https://club.tidalcycles.org/uploads/default/original/2X/b/b2ec42cbdea4e519ddd374ff3d8340c1cb4a6a90.png)

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**Author:** ![hujairi](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/hujairi/32/345_2.png) [@hujairi](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/hujairi)\
**Post date:** [9 February 2021 17:29 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/13 "2021-02-09T17:29:21Z")

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Hi.

I seem to have a similar problem and I can't figure out how to resolve it.

In Tidal, I get this message:  
Choose ghcup default path: /Users/hasanhujairi/.ghcup/bin

```
Ghci command: /Users/hasanhujairi/.ghcup/bin/ghci Ghc-pkg command: /Users/hasanhujairi/.ghcup/bin/ghc-pkg

Load BootTidal.hs from /Users/hasanhujairi/.atom/packages/tidalcycles/lib/BootTidal.hs

t> Loaded package environment from /Users/hasanhujairi/.ghc/x86_64-darwin-8.8.3/environments/default

t>

t> Listening for controls on 127.0.0.1:6010

t> [TidalCycles v1.7]

```

While in SuperCollider, I get this notification:  
\*\*\* Welcome to SuperCollider 3.10.3. \*\*\* For help press Cmd-D.  
'/quit' message sent to server 'localhost'.  
SCDoc: Indexing help-files...  
'/quit' message sent to server 'localhost'.  
Booting server 'localhost' on address 127.0.0.1:57110.  
SCDoc: Indexed 1937 documents in 1.54 seconds

I suppose this means that that SuperCollider is sending out information to a different address compared to what Tidal through ATOM listens to a different address. Is there a way to fix this discrepancy in addresses?

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![yaxu](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/yaxu/32/2_2.png) [@yaxu](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/yaxu)\
**Post date:** [18 February 2021 10:00 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/15 "2021-02-18T10:00:37Z")

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These different ports are normal, 6010 is what tidal listens to for external control messages and is unrelated to superdirt.

If you don't have sound after upgrading tidal it's probably because superdirt is on an old version - the protocol changed slightly. Currently the latest superdirt is v1.7.2

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**Author:** ![hujairi](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/hujairi/32/345_2.png) [@hujairi](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/hujairi)\
**Post date:** [18 February 2021 10:33 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/16 "2021-02-18T10:33:33Z")

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Thanks very much for this. Yes, I ended up updating SuperDirt by downloading the latest folder from Github instead of trying to do it via Quarks in SuperCollider. I replaced the existing SuperDirt folder in my Quarks subfolder and this solved the issue.

Thanks again!

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**Author:** ![yaxu](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/yaxu/32/2_2.png) [@yaxu](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/yaxu)\
**Post date:** [18 February 2021 11:55 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/17 "2021-02-18T11:55:16Z")

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Ah good! There is something wrong with the quarks system I think. 😕

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**Author:** ![Monotremes](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/monotremes/32/1969_2.png) [@Monotremes](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/Monotremes)\
**Post date:** [21 August 2021 17:42 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/19 "2021-08-21T17:42:29Z")

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where is this quarks subfolder located? i found a quarks folder but it contains no superdurt, just SC classes like git, packages, quark, quarks, quarkgui

Im having the same problem since updating tidal as shown in the week 1 lesson 3 / 4 video on the forum here. Ive since updated Supercollider and the atom tidal extension to the latest versions.

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**Author:** ![Monotremes](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/monotremes/32/1969_2.png) [@Monotremes](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/Monotremes)\
**Post date:** [21 August 2021 17:53 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/20 "2021-08-21T17:53:38Z")

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the error messages i get in atom are as follows:

Choose ghc base path

> no custom path configured  
> ghcup not found

- using default GHC system path definition  
Ghci command: ghci  
Ghc-pkg command: ghc-pkg  
Start atom-tidalcycles plugin  
Choose BootTidal.hs path

> no custom path configured  
> not found in current directory  
> not found in the tidal installation folder

- use the default contained in the plugin
- load BootTidal.hs from C:\Users\ollst.atom\packages\tidalcycles\lib\BootTidal.hs  
t\>  
t\>  
t\> [TidalCycles version 1.7.8]  
Installed in C:\Users\ollst\AppData\Roaming\cabal\x86\_64-windows-ghc-8.4.3\tidal-1.7.8  
Listening for external controls on 127.0.0.1:6010

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**Author:** ![Monotremes](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/monotremes/32/1969_2.png) [@Monotremes](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/Monotremes)\
**Post date:** [21 August 2021 18:20 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/21 "2021-08-21T18:20:56Z")

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forgot to mention im running windows 10....

thinking about either trying to completely uninstall tidal, SC and atom, then starting from scratch, or alternatively free up some space and create a linux partiton and try to set up there. This would preclude me from using tidal to trigger my windows softwares though so any help or advice on a fix would be gretly appreciated. Trying to understand whats gone wrong since updating is much harder than the original install itself was!

Thanks in advance!

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**Author:** ![ndr\_brt](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/ndr_brt/32/396_2.png) [@ndr\_brt](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/ndr_brt)\
**Post date:** [21 August 2021 19:19 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/22 "2021-08-21T19:19:36Z")

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That seems a valid console log, no errors there.

What if you try to evaluate a simple pattern?

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**Author:** ![Monotremes](https://uzu.lurk.org/user_avatar/uzu.lurk.org/monotremes/32/1969_2.png) [@Monotremes](https://uzu.lurk.org/u/Monotremes)\
**Post date:** [21 August 2021 19:26 UTC](https://uzu.lurk.org/t/no-sound-produced/2299/23 "2021-08-21T19:26:16Z")

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I get the usual t \> each time i evaluate, but no sound. No other programs running, fresh from restart . Utterly confused.

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